Team Global all the way! Why to help middleman (Retailer-Whole Sellers-Dealers & Ad people) to be RICH? Its a constant battle trying to keep the money in our bank account instead of throwing it away at the Great Amway God. So 6 platinums, a diamondship would run about $2.16 million annually. Well FUCK YOU asshole! It's funny how some people go around not realizing that Anna's tone is actually intentional. My take away message is that anybody can start a legitimate E-commerce by simply googlinng Wikipedia E-commerce and start meaningful old school relationships with clients without scaming and degrading people in a mentally sick way. I will back out of this deal most likely. Um, not there yet. For that reason alone, they made my list. While technically it is possible Id say in reality it is not possible from a standing start. @AnonymousJuly 9, 2013 at 10:40 AMFirst you have established that you are a ridiculous, ignorant hypocrite, not duplicating your upline nor following their instructions that you should not visit so called "negative" websites. Amway and Scientology, Apart From the Labels, What's the Difference? 2nd Anonymous - you got it right but someone who's been brainwashed by Amway cult leaders will disagree and will respond with canned Amspeak bullshit they've duplicated from an asshole in their Amway upline. And if the first one doesn't work then there's always another one to try. as in once a "diamond," always a? Of course, it is "strictly voluntary" but it is understood that your uplines won't give you the time of day if you don't. This doesn't leave a funny taste in your mouth?-Jerry. And surely you can find a commissioned sales job that pays better than $10/month. You do all the work, make a few pennies commission on a sale, and everyone in your upline also makes commission off your hard work. You never tell an Amway Ambot your dreams because they'll use it as a weapon against you at a later date like when you're planning to quit. %??? My diamond makes 1.3 million, and my crown makes 12 million. You cannot just dismiss the thousands of people who voice their grief with this business. This list will cover both current and former Amway Diamonds, U.S. and foreign, and living and deceased Diamonds covering the 50+ year history of the company. Then you get dumb fucks like white afro ambot who does a search online to find out how much money Diamonds make and lands on this post. Not people, but Rs. (Thanks to Dr.Jayashree rath).have a great life.thanks. I'm doing posts about how people are getting prospected by ambots so this will fit in nicely. I think this is yet another brainwashed Ambot assuming anyone who shines a light on the lies and deceit of the Amway SCAM/pyramid are just a bunch of folks who prefer to "rant" instead of find solutions. These are the guys with the lavish lifestyles that few will ever achieve. LOL! Hell Ive never even had a call from a bill collector. Thanks for stopping by with your story. A couple years have passed since then and my business has outgrown their "dream" business ten fold and they are still slaving away, loosing friends, creating enemies and trying to recruit people who want to "live the dream." Diamonds really make close to 400k. I have yet to see a passage in the Bible which talks about how Jesus wants to bless you with material possessions beyond your wildest dreams if only you have enough faith. Most people's bullshit alarms go off, and even ones that sign on out of pity end up bailing if the brainwashing doesn't take hold and they do MATH and see they are going to keep on losing money forever in Amway. As for Warren Buffett and Donald Trump: Warren Buffett does in fact own an MLM (let's call it what it is) but if you look into it, it is run much different from the one we are discussing, and he really isn't directly involved with it. Glad you're enjoying the blog. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. For the calendar year 2021, the average income from Amway for all U.S. registered IBOs at the Founders Platinum level and below was $766 before expenses. You have focused so much on the WHAT that you totally looked over the WHY. How many IBOs have come in here claiming they know someone who makes "gazillions'? this is halarious. They had a proposal to make to me and I agreed to meet them for coffee. Amway is amazing business with quality life and quality money. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. You know the correct income and Amway's head office is way off base by a half a million. Hi Tim. It's one thing to say show the plan and its another thing to actually find a sucker willing to take a look at it. I am looking for any Amway Diamond who has an open mind. . Gag gag gag!!!! The enthusiasm is still there. You probably would have better luck trying to sign up 5 seagulls to the Amway scam than you'd have signing up real people! By the way 'anonymous from Nov 11' no money i spend goes to my upline. I mean, they all have overpriced food, when you could make a cheaper healthier meal at home right? We always knew it had to do with everyone in the upline getting a piece of greed pie after the lowly Ambot at the bottom of the pyramid did a lot of work to make a sale. Anna,Thank-you, this column is wicked. Your a 100 percent real bitch go to hell and rott. Me again. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. Ambots have to lie otherwise they can't scam prospects into coming to an Amway meeting. We always had to write our checks out payable to cash so the Diamonds could avoid paying taxes on it. Not filling the garage with soap they'll be using for the next 20 years because they can't find any suckers to sell it to. (See the AUS "Directly Speaking" and "Tools Scam" articles for . It always amazed me how in the world can these so called "Diamonds" or "Emeralds" have so much money, yet need to have another job at least? Hi Anonymous - its never too late to join in. It's stupid to work a job and make your boss rich. you haven't lost hope. But on this note, why don't you get a look at this website, it breaks up a diamond's revenue better than I ever could:http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/tools.html. One of the anonymous commentors on my site has shared his Amway/Quixtar Story. Uplines DO!!! Nothing wrong with network marketing.Most of those companies you listed, Barnes, Sears, and Best Buy are struggling right now and shutting down stores, they will take any hook they can get for extra cheap referrals to their business.It is not the partner sites that make Amway bad, its their IBO' actions IMO. Oh and seeing as how I'm not in Amway - of course life will be better down the road! I bet those Diamonds are gonna be hauling coal in hell and then we'll see how positive they are then! Worth also noting that all of Alticors non-Amway related revenues are based in the United States, and media and industry reports regularly state that more than 90% of Alticors revenue comes from outside of the US, so Amway revenue is that revenue plus Amway US revenue, which has been reported at around the $860 million mark leaving less than $200 million for non-Amway Alticor revenue, consistent with the earlier reports. I have been looking for an Amway INA diamond to be sponsored by for three years now. Actually I'm wrong. Ha ha!!!! That's the place Ambots use to stash all the overpriced Amway shit they're stockpiling. And what will you get it you do all these things? What would be more fantastic would be more information. I've had a few features this year from kids of ambots and the stories are so similar and always so sad what they went through. Hey -- Ambot Asshole posting as "Anonymous" on November 11 -- do you actually have any cogent arguments to raise against what Anna and others posting here said about your beloved Amway? My parents were Amway folks back in the late 80s and throughout the 90s, even into the early 2000s. After all, less than 1 percent of Amway distributors go Diamond. Anna. Following are the approximate percentages of U.S. registered IBOs who achieved the illustrated results in the calendar year 2021: Diamond Club 0.0271%; Diamond Select 0.0123%; By selecting cancel, the new IBO must complete the rest of the registration process, including payment. Its about the amount of effort you put into this business. Regarding the percentage of Alticors revenue that comes from Amway, a few years back (dont have a link handy sorry), the media reported Alticors non-Amway holdings as doing around $100 million. Funny. John and Jennie Belle Crowe are Amway legends, having been in the business almost fifty years now. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. That's not what it's about. However, most people in the organizations do NOT bother with the 10n retail customer rule. Unless they're really fucked in the head. Alas we have a long way to go! Looks good on paper but putting the Amway bored plan into action is another story because its real hard to find one person to sign up for Scamway let alone 2 or 6 or 100. Could it be that Diamonds are liars about paying for everything in cash? !I'll never forget the "Book of Diamonds". and now i am 6%achiever. We'll be waiting.-Jerry. "if someone unemployed joins amway..great! Theo is either full of crap or Theo has a great deal of debt. Might be tough to keep a straight face around your friend, but trust me on this, they'll leave you alone after you share that's your dream you're following!Good luck! I have had my own business for over 12 years and I am not rich but I am happy because I am my own boss. Network21? That 150k for diamonds you see is actually what's required by the federal trade comission. You have to work for your dreams. Also buy monthly for your "personal assistant" LOL Communikate, around $35 or $40. When our sack of shit Platinum talked his downline into moving over to Monavie I estimate that was a loss of around $25,000/month to Amway. It's a no-brainer . Before you go running your mouth on something you dont know about try getting some real facts, not your biased opinion. I've seen stories where they'll say "come to the seminar.. Anybody can drive around in a Rolls Royce, kid. They joined Amway in 1973 and went Diamond in 1979. Inclusion on Amway Wiki does not mean they are requalifying at that level or even if they are still Amway Business Owners. Then there were the books, all of which were priced at what they'd cost in a bookshop. Kiyosaki was homeless for a while fighting for a dream. Required fields are marked *. For the tiny percentage of ambots who make it it's probably not so nice an income because they have to pretend they're living an Amway diamond lifestyle on low 6 figures and going into debt to fool their downline how rich they are. If you find a page with no information except a name, please feel free to supply any information you may have. In fact. These guys are telling you to sign up for MLMs while they own them. Not what those hyped up ambots pretend the income is gazillions of dollars rolling in every month. Let's also assume he had some living expenses during that time. Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. Depending on the result the person would be a "hit" if they agreed to see the plan, a "miss" if there was no answer and a "flush" if they had the temerity to refuse the opportunity of a lifetime. If you are teamed up with the wrong people then you of course there is the chance of failure- say what you want. Same bullshit, different company. And yup everyone in our upline to Emerald had jobs other than Amway. 10 years isnt a long time to ask for when you can secure your future. Diamond do make 150K a year FROM AMWAY. the same guy thats trying to get me to join amway tells me that he buys lip gloss from amway for 10$ and resells it to people for 20$. That's one of the 10 CORE bullshit that is always mentioned at Scamway meetings. I remember qualifying on an incentive to visit Diamond Clark and Diana Broome's house in Loomis, California. to support their Amway hobby) and if Jesus were around today they would actually scorn him as being a long-haired hippie, pacifist, socialist, bleeding-heart liberal who should go buy a suit and use his influence to scam people out of their money. Well get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isnt spam. The diamonds I know built a house on their property for their parents. The rest they got from selling business tools (supposedly at cost; that is certainly what they told us). If you continue to see this message, please contact Amway's head office or an Ambot? Customer Service Nothing brings those Amway assholes more happiness than destroying other people's relationships. So says you on a post with over 100 comments. People have enough of the Amway bullshit. When it comes to people in Amway you can't be polite. Astonishingly, he makes $300k on a bad year and $460k on a good year. 1965 - First Diamonds Recognized Dutts are Amway's first Diamonds, followed quickly by Hansens and Victors. Those who earn an invitation will participate in fabulous, once-in-a-lifetime activities, new product offerings, and networking opportunities. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Thanks for visiting! So, Darnell, is it WWDB? It's funny how people will always look at a finished product and say that was easy our he's lucky. If your career pays you 100k per year and you make 50k a year in amway, are you going to be complaining? U get Best Prods. You decide whether or not to believe the assholes in your Amway upline or what Amway has in the small print of their own literature. Also many diamonds didn't requalify regularly, was easy to tell by who attended Amway's diamond club. Maybe Kenny Rogers put it best-Jerry, I mean i guess you were in the business. (@)(@)(@)(@) zooom zoom zoom!!!! We know some, but not many. I've always marveled at how these evangelical "Christians" claim to follow the word of Christ, and yet everything they do is the opposite of those teachings. Everyone else keeps working the scam. The Caucasian groups of amway must be absolute crap, look whoever you are I am an executive diamond my name is Theo im Columbian and I started my buisness about 3 years back and look where I got now, I earn 300k a year on a bad unproductive year and 460k a year when my 11 groups of 100 people each try hard, I'm with Equipo Vision and we qualify diamonds and new emeralds almost monthly, under me I have 15 Diamonds, 30 Emeralds, And so many platinums, you are very negative I can tell you just failed, you must not have dreams, or any sort of ambitions. 4 bed, 4 bath, 5,144 sq. no one makes $$$ in Amway below the Diamond pin level. TheWhiteafroguy - all over this blog I write about our involvement with WWDB aka World Wide Destructive Bastards. . The average diamond earns about $150,000, according to Amway. That's why there is a 90 day money back guarantee so you can't be out anything. Answer (1 of 4): To quantify, A Diamond is a level in Amway business wherein one has six Platinum organizations or six breakaway groups having a sale of at least 10 Lac rupees/month. For me, it's the math that doesn't add up. I've been researching, blogging and commenting on Amway and Multilevel Marketing for more than a decade. Do you really want to cancel your registration? Absolutely correct! But when the diamond falls out of qualification fees dry up. I did my own research and i did find that yes some "diamonds" go broke by spending money that isnt there. Holy fuck are you ever a bad little Ambot! This is why the main "consumers" of Amway products are the "recruits". He would make a good salesman like you said, and he didn't even went to college! The new IBO will receive an email with a link to complete the process, Share referral links to your favorite products and receive credit for all of your customer sales. Contrary what you may read by people who don't like what I have to say, this site and my commentary is not endorsed or financially supported in any way by Amway, Alticor, the IBOAI or any other affiliated companies or organizations. They can't afford to or else it means going back to working a job as many have found out. I call BS on this entire statement. Thanks for stopping by with your story. And don't get me started on those multiple weekly meetings where you hear the exact same thing you heard at the meeting before and the one before that and so on..And the abuse you took after you quit is the same abuse everyone else gets too. That is a big red flag.. but do you know how it works? Amway wouldn't print it out if it wasn't true, would they? I love my freedom to spend with my family. Amway busi. Don was a High School science teacher and basketball coach. Anonymous - 95% of people are seeking solutions to what? I'm Kyle. Not interested.8. So we got started and the rest is "history" to this point. Theyd have to be living on credit to bullshit ambots into what is a Diamond lifestyle. I showed up an hour late and I was shocked to find out that my friend sucked me into an Amway meeting like a blind vortex. So even you had to resort to AMWAY for publicity of your cheap BLOG. Because all those expenses I listed above, if you screw up and don't buy them the assholes in the Amway upline will give you a shit kicking and mock you at Amway meetings. I know we did.Why do Amway ambots keep accusing me of having a job? I fail to see how financial and emotional distress is awesome but then I don't meet this ambot's high standards. As you pointed out, if the Ambot can't figure out the math no matter how many circles are drawn, all they can do is make stuff up and spread their lies everywhere they can think of. Only those at the top make money off of the 99% of those below them. The scam comes in due to the lies ambots tell about the compensation and how they hide how much money you really have to spend each month in Amway, a lot of it on the tool scam. This site is my personal opinions about the Amway company. Many of them have died and their businesses are now run by others. Would you like to share this work plan to grow so highly with me as a help. you call people in Amway stupid but the real idiots are the people that listen to you". LOL! That's why most people don't want anything to do with Amway. Someone making the kind of money Theo claims would have to have thousands in in downline (and how he got that many in 3 years when most people will tell you that even getting ONE recruit is harder than hell because of Amway's bad reputation). My Wife Mrs Laxmi Singh & I myself building this awesome unique opportunity with the help of our great LOS and world best proven system. They have you indoctrinated to think that everything you read on the internet is simply the opinions of simple minded slack jawed uneducated liberals who only want to live off of their government welfare program. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. Diamonds don't retire. Are your families dreams worth it? BWW? And they taste better. Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. Sometimes I've written a post and then off it goes into the twilight zone. Reverse that to read over 99% failure rate. De Vos and Van Andel collapsed like a cheap camera, and so the "Tools Scam" continues unabated right now.Let this be carved in granite: DON'T EVER SIGN UP IN AMWAY. In fact fact, I think they probably earned no more than $30,000 then. Flexible Payment Options. LOL! Anonymous - I think people who are desparate to own their own business but don't have a clue how to get started are open to MLM scams. Posting something creepy anonymously and we cant track your location because youre on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. L.O.L. !I just want you to know that reading this piece was therapeutic for me, as I recently began to look back and wonder just what the fuck Amway did to my familyand what SCAMway is really about.Thanks again :). You kind find better stuff free at the library or online. I feel your pain and sorry you went through all this while your parents devoted their lives to Amway the cult of greed. Gets checked occasionally. JUST DO IT. Same broke. I believe it's been 6-7 years since . Aren't you the same guy who was here a year ago with a girlfriend ambot? Amway is a way of life. Ready to become an Amway Independent Business Owner? Good bye biatch. When your Amway up-line tells you that you don't have to bother making actual sales to retail customers, alarm bells should go off immediately in your brain!Those alarm bells should tell you: "This company isn't concerned with product quality, or even with product movement. Register now to take the next steps on path filled with possibilities. Instead it always " I am involved with a (fill in the blank) company. Anna. Its a system designed for failure. Maybe not every day during the week either. This varies from country to country, and strategy to strategy! They were probably shocked as well. No one every enforced the 10 customer rule in order to get a commission from Amway. One is for a free ebook called Merchants of Deception and that will spell out to you exactly what life inside Amway is like. heard all the "Motivational speeches". This example, like most, contains a lot of assumptions and can only be used to provide an overall estimate of income. I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. Even if she only makes one sale a month she'd still be making more money than she would in Amway. Amway is all about financial and emotional distress. Yes, a Diamond who follows the instructions, which includes having 10 RETAIL customers every month and builds that ethic into their downline could make $150 K per year. does this not also include "diamonds"? If they had their income would have gradually died off and theyd have lost their Double Diamond status. No excuses, never give in, never quit, prove the haters wrong. Diamond Select: February 1-3, 2023. Amway is all about selling the hope. Flush that job! They of course made it seem like they were living the "dream." The comment above yours is very typical of an Amway Christian. Depends where they are on the get a bigger piece of pie plan. Anonymous you should check out our recent post about how Amway ambots claim Amway never advertises. So ones diamondships volume is part of another diamondships volume), i would like to know how is it possible. Amway altered my pre-teen years, and straight-up destroyed my parents marriage back in the early 1990's (my dad was in Amway & my mom refused to be a part of it) I was 10-15yrs old when I bore witness to the fucking Amway lifestyle.I'm 35 now, and I look back and see all the ways Amway brainwashed my dad. It's sad really. Anonymous - I think you've figured it out. He got signed last month and I consider this person as 1 of my best friends that I truly care about. If lying and scamming people is part of being a Christian then you can see why so many people want no part of it. I quit it after a couple of months, and my Sgt. Devastator1981 1 yr. ago. The things I learned from Amway I have always used in my everyday life. Anna because of your stupid BLOG people came to know who you are. I just get the sense that you are really pretty. Anna Banana's got wayy too much hate in his heart. But not all Diamonds are on the preferred speaking list so some diamonds earn more cash than others but a diamond could earn several thousand or tens of thousands more a year by this tool income. Do you stand up at Amway meetings and scream out at the Diamond "Shut the hell up you broke loser!!!!" Obviously this is a business. God helped me to take decision to start AMWAY. I said "well, he does have 12 people already set up for his downline". However you Amway "Christians" worship the Great Amway God and worship greed and material things so you're really fucked up in your twisted religious beliefs.This blog is all about transposing how people in Amway treat the rest of the world and sling it back at them. Please check your Minimum Browser Requirements. However, if he were to claim that he owned the Apple stock for more that one month, he's saying that he purchased 1,000 shares of a stock whose value ranged between $300 and $600 per share over the three years that he's been in business. Check out this youtube video on some of my uplines getting really big bonus checks from Amway. Amway now has 17,000+ employees and operates in over 100 countries and territories throughout the world including Canada, China, India, Japan, and Thailand. (later shortened to Amway) so they could expand the product line to include regular household items. About Amway. Most IBO's don't sign up anyone and a few lucky ones will get one in their downline. I was pretty shocked by this book, but all the questions Id been asking myself (but didnt dare voice to my upline) suddenly had answers that made sense. Anonymous - you're too kind when you call him a dickhead! Talk about having free time on your hands! You're just a low life commissioned salesperson for this scam outfit. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if theyre not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.4. I don't want him to get suckered into this, he sounds so passionate about it too.PS. He goes to a lot of the conferences and weekly meetings and is actually doing pretty well which he thinks is just luck. urgent..i want my ex lover back he is leavingme not calling or texting, he is not even responding to meanymore. Is it worth working all those hours and going into debt to trick others and not having much $$$ to show for it? Anyone can say "..it had help more people become financially free" without any actual proof or statistics other than that's what your upline told you. It helps others know they're not going through the Amway hell hole alone. And, those that are doing that well are doing so at the expense of the poor folks duped into working below them. Not hard to figure out at all why Amway diamonds are broke. Uh you dumb Amway fuck you want me to talk it over with the person I've just phoned you to complain about it. Theres lots of different strategies N Commandeur. Until you feel Gods love, it may be hard to accept-Kyle. They suck people money away and just make them fat with huge portions of junk. Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway's publicity department who write press releases and blogs. I'm thinking about 95% - 99% of the people in this crap have other jobs. If you love Amway and the assholes in your Amway upline so much, boy did you pick the wrong place on the Internet to hang out! and now i am 6%achiever. That's one of the requirements to being in the Amway cult, becoming a prude. Diamonds living in parents basements lol. To my surprise they never talked about Amway in this coffee meeting and had proposed what we thought was a legitimate partnership with another business that they started. To you I personally say "Amen Sister!" There are plenty of inexpensive Rolls Royces on eBay for under $20k. Great Post, Anonymous. LOL! Once Ambots are brainwashed they don't care about their friends or family anymore except for how much money then can make off them.So your friend said to you - I know a really sharp businessman who has some great ideas.